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Exxon's worst nightmare come true


0 to 60 in 4 seconds. 50 MPG. All designed by a team of high school students from Philly.

p.s. It runs on soy bean oil

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Deanna

Well, it sure SEEMS positive. But how much energy did it take to get the soybean oil that the hybrid car runs on? How much petrol did it take to grow the plants and extract the oil? Lots as is generally the case for the big monocrops like corn and soy. All this talk of biofuels sounds great, but often, they take more energy to attain than you get in energy output, thus are a net energy LOSS. Check:
http://www.peakoil.com/
http://www.museletter.com/
http://www.drydipstick.com/

Local raw is the eco friendly way to go. Power down and think about just how much fuel it took to get you whatever you are eating. When in doubt, grow your own.

Dhrumil

Deanna,

Good points. But if not biofuels, than what?

P.S. I still drive a car that runs off of regular gas, what about you? I think if I had an option, I'd go with this car above. Not perfect, just a step in the right direction.

Deanna

Dhrumil,

It is a real dilemma. I do drive a regular car now, but also try to limit driving. Bicycles are a good choice for city dwellers. When world oil production peaks - which may happen any time now - people will have to get used to getting by without the easy power they are now accustomed to having. And besides, it is healthier for humans to use their own power than to sit and be carted around everywhere.

Let me ask you this: If the biofuel takes more petroleum to make than it would to directly put the petroleum in the tank in the first place, how is that a step in the right direction? I am not saying that is necessarily always the case, but it must be a consideration at least, correct? Many peak oil experts have studied the energy equations at length and have come to question biofuels because they do take so much energy in agricultural equipment, synthetic fertilizers (which also take agricultural equipment) and processing (which again takes energy to extract the oil). I think using human waste as a biofuel might be better than soy or corn, but it sounds pretty nasty, eh?

And now to change the subject, check out my lactofermented salsa page:
http://www.salvonix.com/HomeProject/salsa.html

BC

Yo Dru, what's up dude. I had to hop in on this, as this stuff I'm neck deep in everyday. Bio fuels will be economically viable sooner than later, especially if fossil fuels steadily increase in price relative to overall inflation. Deanna, when you hear talk about how much petrol it takes to make a gallon of bio-fuel, instead think to yourself what if we lived in a society which was based on alternative fuels and could produce bio-fuel from other alternative energy sources? We live in a system designed upon petrol and hence any talk of creating bio-fuel will factor in the petrol costs needed to get to the final solution. But what if all we had to use was soy? Then it would still happen, but at just a higher initial input of energy. It can happen, it's just that we don't create our initial energy to do work from soy these days, instead it's gas, coal or nuclear. Yes solar and wind are breaking into a few percentage points, but that's still a few decades off. But what if you had a solar and wind powered Mini-Steel mill, say Nucor (NUE). The solar panels and wind turbines were built by GE-Energy (GE), which built the carbon fiber wind mills in a plant which used solar to power the manufacturing of the carbon. Now the steel, which was created by using the less energy intensive scrap metal (NUE's clame to fame) could be shipped on a rail line to a Caterpiller (CAT) factory on a bio-diesel powered rail line (trains get about 50 mpg/ton, one of the most efficient powered transportation systems ever invented). The CAT factory could be solar powered and there they assemble Caterpiller tractors to farm the organic soy field.

It can happen, we just need to keep the sustainable mindframe at all times and work in our current economic system to make it happen. I try to ride my bike in Philly as much as possible and avoid driving the car unless I leave the city. I also help people become mindful of the interconnectedness of their actions. Like if you have your house heat set lower, then your refridgerator runs way less, and if it runs less than it may last years longer, which keeps it from ending up in a landfil sooner. Sorry to go on and on, but there's a solution for everything, especially when an oil economist is talking against something. Hey, check out www.SustainableBusiness.com. It's been one of my fav's since it started up in the 90's.

ride on!

-bc

Scott

I drive a vw jetta on bio-diesel, a commercially available bio-fuel that can be made from virgin or recycled vegetable oil. Especially when spent oil from chinese restaurants or fast food restaurants is used, then it is the perfect way to close the loop.

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